Tumor biopsy from pathologist and university lab come backbone unenthusiastic but during surgery to win tumor removed?
the surgeon noticed certain characteristics and he did an on the spot biopsy, he say it is cancerous. Now I hold to get radiation. Would you get a second opinion or what? How could the pathologist at the hospital AND the university miss this? How accurate are biopsies? I do get the surgeon had a much larger sample to work with, I am simply wondering if I should get 6 weeks of radiation therapy without getting the second feelings first. Are there any type of tests which indicate cancer other than of late a biopsy? All of my blood work has always been typical. No elevations at all.
Answers: You've already asked this and Spreedog give you a very good answer. A surgeon is not going to be able to bring up to date you what type of tumor it is. The tissue sample will be sent off to be tested.
Thanks Jeff, but I have plenty of points. There's no point within posting a question at all if you're not finding the conclusion you've already come to. Once again, they don't test the tissue as they're operating on you. They convey it to be tested.
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d work is often normal with patients that hold cancer and no other test will be more definitive than a tissue sample. I’m not really sure what you are looking for. Are you saying you don’t guess it is cancer?
Technically and you have had a second opinion as any pathology explicitly positive for cancer is always looked at by another pathologist to be sure before the patient or their doctor is told.
The most accurate diagnosis is going to come from the biopsy next to the largest tissue sample, which is likely to be the one the surgeon did. If you want another opinion you can other have it sent to another pathologist. Source(s): I am a cancer registrar.
I can only guess at what happen, but it might help sort things out for you. The first set of biopsies were probably "fine needle aspirations". In some places the pathologist do this procedure, but to be precise far from standard at all hospitals. In fine needle aspirations the pathologist gets to see the individual cell, but not how they are arranged within the lesion. Sometimes the individual cancer cells look deceptively benign with underprovided atypia of their nuclei and other features characterizing cancer cells. In other cases the needle "bends" and no cell from the tumor are obtained. In that case the report would be signed out as normal or not representative taster. In other cases the cancer develops within a benign tumor. If only the benign cells are present surrounded by the biopsy specimen the pathologist has not choice but to sign the report out as benign. During surgery it is possible to do a "frozen section biopsy", where the surgeon cuts out a small indication of the tumor, and send it to the pathologist. On the frozen section the pathologist in supplement to the appearance of the tumor cells can see how they are arranged, and this will give him what he needs to establish the malignant diagnosis. Fine nozzle biopsy of salivary gland tumors is considered reliable, but it is not 100% accurate every time.
What tumor was this? what did the surgeon find? You need to provide this information.
Usually when biopsies are being taken mulitple ones are taken to improve sensitivity.
If the surgeon open you up though and saw some cancerous lesions and then biopsied them (which is standard protocol) then i'd trust the surgeon is right since one and only him/her could be 100% sure they biopsied the mass (after all, they saw it on a macro scale).
e are types of tests that indicate cancer, but depends on what kind of cancer and if it have metastasized. These are all once again, not very specific (e.g. elvated ESR, anemia) and are usually when the cancer has spread (metastasized).
I had the same operation to remove a cancerous growth on my parotid gland. It be followed with six weeks of raditation. The surgeon would have sent a sample for a biopsy.
It is up to an oncolgist to want what further treatment is required and not the surgeon. Meet with an onocologist first before stressing out.
I recently had two lymph nodes tested. One came backbone positive and the other negative but both swollen lymph nodes appeared at the same time with one and the same growth.
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Answers: You've already asked this and Spreedog give you a very good answer. A surgeon is not going to be able to bring up to date you what type of tumor it is. The tissue sample will be sent off to be tested.
Thanks Jeff, but I have plenty of points. There's no point within posting a question at all if you're not finding the conclusion you've already come to. Once again, they don't test the tissue as they're operating on you. They convey it to be tested.
Basically same details in question about suing your dr.
d work is often normal with patients that hold cancer and no other test will be more definitive than a tissue sample. I’m not really sure what you are looking for. Are you saying you don’t guess it is cancer?
Technically and you have had a second opinion as any pathology explicitly positive for cancer is always looked at by another pathologist to be sure before the patient or their doctor is told.
The most accurate diagnosis is going to come from the biopsy next to the largest tissue sample, which is likely to be the one the surgeon did. If you want another opinion you can other have it sent to another pathologist. Source(s): I am a cancer registrar.
I can only guess at what happen, but it might help sort things out for you. The first set of biopsies were probably "fine needle aspirations". In some places the pathologist do this procedure, but to be precise far from standard at all hospitals. In fine needle aspirations the pathologist gets to see the individual cell, but not how they are arranged within the lesion. Sometimes the individual cancer cells look deceptively benign with underprovided atypia of their nuclei and other features characterizing cancer cells. In other cases the needle "bends" and no cell from the tumor are obtained. In that case the report would be signed out as normal or not representative taster. In other cases the cancer develops within a benign tumor. If only the benign cells are present surrounded by the biopsy specimen the pathologist has not choice but to sign the report out as benign. During surgery it is possible to do a "frozen section biopsy", where the surgeon cuts out a small indication of the tumor, and send it to the pathologist. On the frozen section the pathologist in supplement to the appearance of the tumor cells can see how they are arranged, and this will give him what he needs to establish the malignant diagnosis. Fine nozzle biopsy of salivary gland tumors is considered reliable, but it is not 100% accurate every time.
What tumor was this? what did the surgeon find? You need to provide this information.
Usually when biopsies are being taken mulitple ones are taken to improve sensitivity.
If the surgeon open you up though and saw some cancerous lesions and then biopsied them (which is standard protocol) then i'd trust the surgeon is right since one and only him/her could be 100% sure they biopsied the mass (after all, they saw it on a macro scale).
e are types of tests that indicate cancer, but depends on what kind of cancer and if it have metastasized. These are all once again, not very specific (e.g. elvated ESR, anemia) and are usually when the cancer has spread (metastasized).
I had the same operation to remove a cancerous growth on my parotid gland. It be followed with six weeks of raditation. The surgeon would have sent a sample for a biopsy.
It is up to an oncolgist to want what further treatment is required and not the surgeon. Meet with an onocologist first before stressing out.
I recently had two lymph nodes tested. One came backbone positive and the other negative but both swollen lymph nodes appeared at the same time with one and the same growth.
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